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j1schwab (NY) | Posted on 9/8/2011 at 6:30 PM
I think that sounds like a great idea.
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drewster98 (MI) | Posted on 9/11/2011 at 5:11 PM
I would enter a doubles tourney each week if this happened. I'm amazed it hasn't happened already. :)
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wrong1 (CA) | Posted on 9/12/2011 at 1:16 AM
The problem I see with this is how would you have any sidepots, etc.?
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DccRoch (NY) | Posted on 9/27/2011 at 9:30 AM
Blind Doubles sounds good, all side bets would still work the same.
It would also help keep the teams from being stacked.
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hopkins74 (ME) | Posted on 9/28/2011 at 6:22 PM
i see this as a great idea, I run a blind draw in my house (augusta maine) and we have 20teams I usually get between 80-100 entries each week. Normally most people get in 2 or 4 times
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wrong1 (CA) | Posted on 9/28/2011 at 8:04 PM
The problem I see is that one guy wants to get into SP and someone else doesn't so now they cant be paired or how is that handled? Or someone wants 8 brackets and someone else wants 1 or 2. can't think of anyway to reconcile this. |
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Scott Scriver (AZ) | Posted on 9/28/2011 at 9:46 PM
Thinking about how I would go about doing this. I do know, that the person who pays would be the one picking the brackets, sidepots and eliminator. Payouts would still be split 50/50. The only difference would be that instead of selecting a bowler as your doubles partner, you would select "pick one for me" and the system would locate a random partner for you. Note that this is NOT available yet.....I am just thinking out loud for now.
Scott Scriver
scott@nabso.com
LeagueSecretary.com
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Just Because (NY) | Posted on 9/29/2011 at 8:48 AM
Hey Scott that sounds kind of interesting. So if I'm getting this right you would be adding a additional option to select a random bowler for the doubles and still have an option of bowling with yourself. It just may boost up the doubles entries especially for those who want to get in but don't have partners.
God Loves Us All
Be Blessed
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styngerme (TN) | Posted on 9/29/2011 at 8:56 AM
My thought is have the people pay for their own Brackets/Side Pots/Entry (similar to a singles tournament). Once the entries close, the computer will automatically pick the doubles partners for the tournament. For Brackets/side pots the computer will attempt to match up with the same person, but if the Blind partner did not get in the same amount of brackets/side pots, the computer will pair up with another person... For example... Bowler A enters Tourny/10 Brackets/HG/Eliminator, the blind bowler that was paired up with Bowler A (Bowler B) only entered into the Tourny/5 Brackets. The computer will put bowler A and B in 5 brackets together, and the remaining 5 Brackets/HG/Eliminator will be with a seperate bowler (Bowler C, D, etc). If for some reason all brackets were not filled, Bowler A would get a refund. Another option, is have everything a Blind Draw... For example, Bowler A wants to get into Tourny/10 brackets/HG/Eliminator, he may have different partners for each bracket/HG/eliminator... Also you can have Tourny entries work like Brackets... For example, how many Blind Draw Doubles did you want; and you could get doubled up with numerous people. I think the big thing is each person is responsible for their own entries... Not one blind bowler pay for his entry and his blind partners... The system will know who paid, and can team up afterwards.
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vegasbnd1 (NY) | Posted on 9/29/2011 at 10:26 AM
Personally I think both people entering Blind Draw should both pay entries. This would be unfair to pick at random another bowler, especially since not everyone enters their scores every week. The player paying the entry and get random selected to one of those loses all the money, as far as brackets and side action same principals apply here and for the VT cup this could be a total disaster for someone to get picked and then have no scores entered as well, I know having Joneshut gone has hurt entries but its still early I see alot of new faces here.
I do like Blind Draw Doubles I just think its unfair to make one bowler pay and then split the prizes to another player who did not pay, not that what we do now is not like that but I think most people rotate the entries of who pays.
Just my opinion.
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styngerme (TN) | Posted on 9/29/2011 at 11:48 AM
Just to clarify, my suggestion is each bowler would pay their own entry... Instead of having 1 bowler pay for 2 people plus brackets, SP, etc, each person entering would be responsible for their own part... I would pay my BD entry fees. Once finalized the computer can randomly pair up individuals who paid.... Then split the money 50/50. Doing this would force each bowler to pay their half. As far as scores not being entered... It can stay blind until the end... If you paid and entered your scores you would then be paired up with someone else who has done the same... If you did not pay, you don't even get entered... If you pay and not send in your scores, you would be disqualified -- the person you were doubled up with will be paired up with someone else, and the money you paid would go into the final prize money payout...
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DccRoch (NY) | Posted on 9/29/2011 at 4:27 PM
We have done this in my league for years.
The blind doubles would be a seperate entry form, everyone pays their own entry fee.
The computer will Draw the doubles partners after the scores have been entered and verified for the tournement. Each bracket, eliminator and side bet would have the computer draw seperate pairs for all that are qualified. (which by pure luck you might have the same bowlers multiple times for each thing.)
The doubles partner should not have yourself as a partner. It Needs to be 2 different bowlers just like any doubles tournement.
You can only enter your name one time into each individual bracket. If you get into 10 brackets, then your name should appear 1 time in each bracket paired with a partner. If there are not enough bowlers to complete 10 doubles brackets, then you get a refund for the ones not used.
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Bowl2Win (NC) | Posted on 9/29/2011 at 5:55 PM
I like this more of a $5 - $10 side event than a full tournament with high game, eliminator and brackets. I have never been a big fan in luck of the draw type events. You could still make it get in as many as you want to generate entries. I probably would not get in due to the luck of the draw and I do not have much luck.
If people are looking for doubles entries then don't be afraid to reach out to other bowlers on the site. Use the messaging system to contact others. I personally have used this system to meet several people. People that I never would have without this site.
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hausparty (IA) | Posted on 2/3/2012 at 1:29 PM
I also LOVE this idea but i also love the idea of just entering more than once into DOUBLES which will increase your POT!
I only bowl once a week because I just dont have time to bowl in more than 1 league but with that said I woud love to spend that money saved by only bowling once and spending it on this site instead. LOL If we arent the same exact team why would it matter if you enter in more than once? $13 x 4 entries is a lot more money than limiting me to just 1 entry? We already allow guys in various leagues to enter more than once allowing them a few extra chances to bowl GOOD! If i enter 3 times it still only allows me 1 chance to bowl good! The odds are still in favor of those bowling 3 times a week vice me bowling once and yet they are allowed to enter because its seperate leagues? Yet those guys still have roughly the same averages in all 3 leagues and again only takes them 1 good night to bowl good out of 3 to win money. This also allows them 3 entries into doubles and shoot they can even enter a team of themselves. If i only have 1 shot to bowl good why would it matter if i'm teamed up with MARY, PAUL, JOE, or Bob? All seperate entires and if i bowl bad i just screwed up all those teammates! If i bowl good i only need 1 of them to bowl good and I'm a happy campter. You take the same guy who bowls 3 times a week and he now has 3 nights to try to bowl good! What if he bowls good all 3? It's time to even that out accross the board and give that person who bowls 1 night a week a chance to spend more money on your site. It also builds friendships and connections and that too will build up more money! Soon you will see the same double partners wanting to be hooked up and new BLIND DRAWS to build more connections and fun. Might even see a site mail or two from player to player wishing each other luck and who knows maybe some texts, or better yet Facebook friends where VT can be advertised and shared amongst friends.
The bottom line for Virtualtournaments.com is MONEY and increased growth and revenue. I'm telling you right this week i would team up with my Brother and anyone else looking to be my teammate if given the chance. Do you want my $13.00 or would you rather my $26, or $39??? I'm happier and you make more money!
Those bowling 3 times a week can still enter 3 seperate times or say they bowl M, W, and F nights. Come Friday they are tired but they want to enter the max amoutn of times. Well now they too can have the option to just use thier M scores a few times for doubles if they want as long as they have a different partner!
This is like limiting a person who plays lotto to 1 ticket per customer!
I'm all for BLIND DRAW or MULTIPLE entries into the doubles as long as its with a different partner. The more you pay the better your chances are and that is the case right now for those bowling 3 times a week. Even out the field for those who bowl 1 time a week and who are willing to spend more money.
Just my opinion.
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Scott Scriver (AZ) | Posted on 2/3/2012 at 1:35 PM
Just to clarify -- we DO allow multiple doubles entries.
You can enter as many times as you want with different partners, of course. You just cannot enter the same partner and same league. If your partner bowls in two leagues, and you only bowl one, then you can have two entries. One for each of your partners leagues.
It is unlimited the number of doubles partners.
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hausparty (IA) | Posted on 2/3/2012 at 1:36 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!! I must of read that wrong on the rules page.
This is great news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Still would like to see blind draws too but i am excited now.
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hausparty (IA) | Posted on 2/3/2012 at 1:38 PM
Doubles Tournaments
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If you are on multiple Leagues, you can enter MULTIPLE times (once per League per week).
I think you might want to tweak the way this is worded! one per league per week?
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hausparty (IA) | Posted on 2/3/2012 at 1:58 PM
I'm already signed up with a new partner thanks to this posting! The doubles tourney has $50 more than it probably would have if i didnt post today! Thanks Scott for pointing this out!
And good luck to my new doubles partner Anthony! :)
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oddym (FL) | Posted on 2/4/2012 at 9:00 AM
I think this is a great IDEA.................I'm in..................
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MrChokeArtist (IL) | Posted on 2/4/2012 at 2:40 PM
I agree with Bowl2win, this sound good if done as a side pot itself, there shouldn't be any side pots on top of the mystery draw doubles.
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